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Wednesday, February 24, 2010
PropheticPerspective: Jones Interview: War with Iran -Nathan Jones (BPT)
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Jones Interview: War with Iran
By Nathan Jones
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In December 2009 I was interviewed by Bill Salus, author of the popular Psalm 83-themed book Isralestine, host of the radio program "Prophecy Update," and evangelist on the end times website Prophecy Depot. Bill and I spent much of the interview discussing the Rapture, Middle East politics and my "left behind" video "Jesus Came. What's Next?"
Bill has been kind enough to allow The Christ in Prophecy Journal to reproduce the "Caught Up in the Pre-Trib Rapture" interview in transcript form, edited into an article series. To listen to the original radio program in mp3 format, I invite you to visit Prophecy Depot or KWBB.In this segment, Bill and I will be discussing why there's a better chance of a Psalm 83-type war happening before the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog-Magog Battle between Iran and Israel.Case for Psalm 83 Happening NextBill Salus: A lot of people have sort of an "Ezekiel 38-39 fervor" going on right now, and rightfully so.Nathan Jones: Like you've been saying in Isralestine, though, the nations that comprise Ezekiel 38-39 do not border Israel. If we look at the modern names of the nations listed in Ezekiel 38-39, we easily see this absence. The players are Rosh, which is Russia, the ancient Scythian people. Turkey is listed, as well as Armenia. Turkey just signed a pact with Armenia recently. Libya is on the list, as well as the Sudan and all these lesser nation. Persia is now called Iran.All of the Ezekiel 38-39 nations form an outer ring around Israel. One day they will plan on getting together to attack Israel, prompted by God Himself. Ezekiel 38-39 says God will put hooks in the leader of this coalition — a leader who will be designated "Gog" — and drag them down to their destruction.But, we look around the nations surrounding Israel like Egypt, Lebanon and Syria and Jordan, and we've got to wonder why they are sitting the Gog-Magog invasion out? Hezbollah has 40,000 rockets now pointed south from Lebanon at Israel. So, these are definitely countries that hate Israel with a passion and who everyday are yelling they want to destroy Israel, and yet they are sitting out the Ezekiel 38-39 invasion.So, yes, you are right. I think we definitely have going on a very great expectation in seeing Ezekiel 38-39 happen soon, but I really believe you came across something with your Psalm 83 theory, because those nations will certainly not want to sit out the destruction of Israel.Bill Salus: And those surrounding nations are coincidentally all listed in Psalm 83. We are talking about the nations of Lebanon where Hezbollah is, Syria, Jordan, the Palestinians of course, Hamas in the old Philistine area of Gaza, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Those nations are the inner ring who closely border the nation of Israel today.I agree that it is certainly worth exploring and thinking about why they aren't listed in the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog-Magog invasion. Is it because Israel deals with them prior in the Psalm 83 episode. Of course, that is the central theme of Israelistine.Speculation on Explosive EventsBill Salus: Dare we talk about how close some explosive events in the Middle East could be? Unlike my mentor Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum who likes to have a "wait and see attitude" and not speculate, occasionally I go out on the fringe and speculate just a little bit. So, I am going to do that a little bit.What I am trying to do here is to give people encouragement. In other words, we need to be courageous if the events we are talking about happen while we are still around to talk about them. These wars will have an adverse effect on all of humanity because theMiddle East is the primary oil wealthy region of the world. Nathan Jones: Too true. Iran has already threatened to close down the Strait of Hormuz where 40 percent of our oil travels through. So, it's not like this is something far out in theMiddle East that no one in the West has to worry about. A big Middle Eastern war will affect the entire world. Going on to the Gog-Magog Battle of Ezekiel 38-39, there will be some tremendous fallout from that. The world finally acknowledges God. There won't be an atheist left after Ezekiel 38-39! God is going to destroy those invading armies miraculously. We are talking about hail and fire and the armies turning on each other. Along with the supernatural destruction of the invading armies in the "mountains of Israel, Ezekiel 39:6 says there will also be fire falling on the invading nations' homelands, those nations that feel they are in safety. Whatever Ezekiel 38-39 results in, it results will also be felt worldwide.I don't believe Christians will witness the battle of Ezekiel 38-39. It is more related to the Tribulation because the nations of the Earth end up acknowledging God. That revelation is a very Tribulation type of event.But, I think we could be here to witness a Psalm 83 War. Israel right now really has no friends. They are surrounded by hostile enemies. We have Iran which nobody is doing anything serious about, and certainly the United States isn't. The European Union is trying to divide up Jerusalem. Israel has to do something now about the Iranian nuclear threat. One of Israel's generals came out recently and said that the next war Israel has to face will be an all-country war because the enemy missiles now can finally hit any part of Israel. Fortunately, the Israeli Defense Forces are very smart and they know how to fight. I think they will have to do something about their surrounding neighbors. Maybe a Psalm 83 war will be enough to push Iran and these other outer ring nations to back up a little while and catch their breath before they make an Ezekiel 38-39 coalition and attack.Bill Salus: Right. The Wall Street Journal came out I think it was in October or November of '09 and reported that should Israel plan a strike on Iran, Iran will follow through with their threat to shut down the Strait of Hormuz causing the price of oil to go up to possibly $300 a barrel. Presently oil is closing in around $70-$80 a barrel.War with Iran will have a dramatic effect.
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One Thousand Years: Genesage " A Rose is a Rose?" (Chp 4:10)
One Thousand Years
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" A Rose is a Rose?"
(Chp 4:10)
Brother Michael had closed his eyes.
He did not stop seeing, she was looking at him. He knew she was looking at him, he had seen her. He had looked only briefly but it was enough.
His breathing was quick. It was deep and he could not evade the feelings that were pursuing him. Feelings rushing after him, chasing him, seeking to engulf him as he fled their familiar response.
The feelings so long lost to him and forgotten never to be remembered were stirred.
Moving him, they arrested him. Binding him in ways he would have preferred to forget. Trapped, he saw the feelings all over again in the love he had felt. The love he had known. The love long ago suppressed and not dealt with.
But the look had….,
The look had…made him…remember.
She had been his fiancée, but now she was gone.
Crashing realities of expressive memories sought to entangle his moment of perception with clarity far beyond his comprehension. There was no way he could be thinking what he was thinking. It was impossible that his rationale mind could be impinging upon his present reality when he had locked those thoughts far away from him.
How could he be thinking them now?
It was what he saw in Rose. What he “beheld” in those eyes. What he felt was the same “look” he had once known, and he recognized it again. Recognized it in a place it was impossible for it to be.
In Rose.
The “fullness of living” the “completeness of being” the sheer reality of all that Rose was completed a link in his mind he had denied himself for so long. To love.
The loss of love he had accepted. To love again he had rejected. Every day he was alive he denied himself to consider, feel and release. He would not, he could not, he dare not love again. The pain of gain then the loss was too great.
Yet there was love staring him in the face.
He saw it in Rose Eyes
Dare he “feel” that way again?
In agony he let go and was free.
Rachael not far away considered the warmth and feelings she had, they swarmed from her loins and flowed to her heart. They made her want to cry out and run. Run and never stop.
To laugh and to cry, to run and be set free, to dance and to enjoy. She wanted to go forward and dare not yet. In some way her soul felt for and embraced her, Rose, the PlantKind.
She felt she the great need to protect her, to console her, to help her, to be near her. She had never felt so "maternal" before. It ached in her breasts, it burned in her belly, she felt akin to the oneness Rose was in Creation. She felt the greatest ache she had ever known in her life and agonized to be fulfilled in that moment she “looked” into those eyes.
Nehevivor was struggling to remain calm. He wanted to run away. He couldn't think, he couldn't move The air was stifling for him. He needed to get away. He needed to think this out. It was too much raw emotion. He didn't know how to deal with it. He was overwhelmed. He felt as though walls were chasing him. He wanted to get away before they got him. He could not get away.
They were closing in on him. He..,
Donald was surprised. All his instincts and survival skills told him this wasn't possible. This couldn't be what he was seeing, yet he was feeling it none the less.
A Rose bush of all things.
Donald felt as though he were standing completely naked, bereft of all pretenses and with no pride now. No ego, merely a child to be encouraged to grow up, grow strong, mature.
Donald who always felt mature, in control, in command, for the first time while held in the Gaze of Rose, felt like a little boy in comparison to what he felt like looking in those eyes. He struggled to remain calm and keep his composure.
Donald was not succeeding.
Everyone was reacting differently. If there was anything uniform about the effect of the “Gaze of Rose” it was that it was universal. Everyone was affected, no one was excluded. Everyone had retreated to their own inner sanctum and found someone there.
Someone foreign, someone they could not take their eyes off of. Someone or something that was not a threat exactly, for all the emotions were one of sympathy, compassion, love, from Rose.
Yet to have a total stranger to be inside your very emotional center affecting it was disconcerting.
Those who had wanted transparency in their previous life now had a dose of what that was really like. With the Gaze of Rose lasting so short, none were sure that transparency was something to be desired after all.
Sane people required limits and parameters. Place to hide behind. This was too wide open emote with no boundaries apparent. Everyone except Eben had recoiled from that contact. They were unprepared.
But Eben had embraced it.
Not only did they find someone foreign touching the very center of their being, but in transmigration to the “Center of Rose” they began to see themselves through someone else's eyes. That was uncomfortable. Discombobulating to almost all of them.
Especially so since most did not really see themselves as they truly were.
Nor did they even see themselves as they thought they were.
They saw themselves through the filter of the “Heart of Rose”.
They could see through Rose colored glasses with themselves appearing better than they were. Yet the purity of the sight was exhilarating. It was humbling and unique to each one separately. No one who met that Gaze, and all did, was left without a clearer vision of themselves.
No one hid when Rose had Gazed upon them, none could.
Rose saw them, and they….saw Rose.
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Do you have areas of your personal life that are out of control? (107-2)
The fruits of the Spirit of God are love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control and patience. It is interesting that leaders great or unknown, empowered or restricted, experienced or at the beginning of their journey, wealthy or without financial resources can all experience the fruits of the Spirit without limit or restriction.
Every leader should look introspectively on a regular basis and determine if these gifts from God are present, increasing or decreasing. One of the fruits that tends to be a gatekeeper to enjoying all the others is self-control. As we move through the first 9 chapters of 1 Chronicles it is good to stop and look at one leader that lost it all because of lack of self-control. Read 1 Chronicles 3:1.
In the genealogy of King David, Amnon was his first born. One might suppose the firstborn son of a great king was foreordained to do great things for his people. Yet Amnon will end up little more than a footnote in Israel’s history and forfeited any claim to leadership because of his lack of self-control (2 Samuel 13:1-19). Amnon’s lack of self-control led to the disgrace of his family, destroyed his half-sister’s life and eventually resulted in his own death at the hands of a vengeful half-brother.
When self-control was lost by one member of a family, it created a situation that caused the loss of love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and patience for the entire family for a generation.
Is your leadership marked with self-control or do you struggle in certain areas such as honesty and fairness? Do you have areas of your personal life that are out of control i.e. lust or pride or anger?
Any area of a leader’s life that lacks self-control will eventually limit their ability to lead effectively and will diminish or eliminate the other fruits of the spirit. Wise leaders understand the power of self-control.
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