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Can women serve as pastors?

The question of whether women can serve as pastors has been a constant issue for me in my Christian life. I have had to deal with it personally in my own family, theologically when I was assigned to write my Master’s thesis on it, and practically as it has been one of the most frequently asked questions on GotQuestions.org for the past 9 years. It truly is an issue I wish I could avoid, but God will not allow me to just avoid it. So, for the first post on gotquestions.blogos.org, I have decided to discuss the women pastors issue, once again.

Obviously, the question of women serving as pastors is a very controversial one. There are very strongly held beliefs on both sides of the argument. There are people on both sides who truly strive to use the Bible alone to come to a conclusion on the issue. Sadly, though, far more people allow their emotions, preferences, and preconceptions to be the determining factor. The most common non-biblical objections to our stand on women pastors are:

(1) You are a bunch of misogynist chauvinist pigs. This argument is usually either the opening salvo, or the conclusion. Basically, it says that the only reason to deny women from serving as pastors is if you hate women. It completely ignores the undeniable fact that there are several texts in the Bible that at least seem to place restrictions on women serving as pastors. You can disagree with our interpretation. But, to state that our understanding is a completely invalid application of the texts – that is unreasonable.

(2) I know you are wrong because God has called me, a woman, to be a pastor. There is often no value in reasoning with someone who thinks God has told him/her to do something. You could show him/her all the biblical and theological evidence and it would not matter. “Who are you to argue with what God has told me?” I’ll take what IKNOW God has said in His Word over what you claim God has told you every single time.

(3) There are many women pastors who lead very successful ministries. The argument is basically that if God does not call women to be pastors, these women would not be leading successful churches. Since when do we base our understanding of what God is blessing on how successful it is? The Mormon church is growing faster than the Christian denominations. Even worse, Islam is growing faster than Christianity. We cannot base our beliefs on what is successful. Why then do some women pastors lead successful ministries? I believe the power is the Word of God, not the messenger. “So is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.” (Isaiah 55:11)

Don’t get me wrong, I recognize that there are biblically-based arguments for an egalitarian understanding of the women pastors issue. I’ll leave a response to those arguments for a future post on this blog. I truly wish all of these emotional knee-jerk reactions could be set aside and we could focus exclusively on the interpretation of the biblical passages that speak to the issue of women pastors. Sadly, though, the vast majority of objections to our women pastors article are based on the above arguments. What is truly most discouraging is when people essentially admit “I do not care what the Bible says…”

 

 

Women pastors / preachers? What does the Bible say about women in ministry?



 

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Question: "Women pastors / preachers? What does the Bible say about women in ministry?"

Answer: 
There is perhaps no more hotly debated issue in the church today than the issue of women serving as pastors/preachers. As a result, it is very important to not see this issue as men versus women. There are women who believe women should not serve as pastors and that the Bible places restrictions on the ministry of women, and there are men who believe women can serve as preachers and that there are no restrictions on women in ministry. This is not an issue of chauvinism or discrimination. It is an issue of biblical interpretation.


The Word of God proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14). God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes preaching to, teaching, and having spiritual authority.

There are many “objections” to this view of women in ministry. A common one is that Paul restricts women from teaching because in the first century, women were typically uneducated. However, 1 Timothy 2:11-14 nowhere mentions educational status. If education were a qualification for ministry, the majority of Jesus' disciples would not have been qualified. A second common objection is that Paul only restricted the women of Ephesus from teaching (1 Timothy was written to Timothy, who was the pastor of the church in Ephesus). The city of Ephesus was known for its temple to Artemis, a false Greek/Roman goddess. Women were the authority in the worship of Artemis. However, the book of 1 Timothy nowhere mentions Artemis, nor does Paul mention Artemis worship as a reason for the restrictions in 1 Timothy 2:11-12.

A third common objection is that Paul is only referring to husbands and wives, not men and women in general. The Greek words in the passage could refer to husbands and wives; however, the basic meaning of the words refers to men and women. Further, the same Greek words are used in verses 8-10. Are only husbands to lift up holy hands in prayer without anger and disputing (verse 8)? Are only wives to dress modestly, have good deeds, and worship God (verses 9-10)? Of course not. Verses 8-10 clearly refer to all men and women, not only husbands and wives. There is nothing in the context that would indicate a switch to husbands and wives in verses 11-14.

Yet another frequent objection to this interpretation of women in ministry is in relation to women who held positions of leadership in the Bible, specifically Miriam, Deborah, and Huldah in the Old Testament. This objection fails to note some significant factors. First, Deborah was the only female judge among 13 male judges. Huldah was the only female prophet among dozens of male prophets mentioned in the Bible. Miriam's only connection to leadership was being the sister of Moses and Aaron. The two most prominent women in the times of the Kings were Athaliah and Jezebel—hardly examples of godly female leadership. Most significantly, though, the authority of women in the Old Testament is not relevant to the issue. The book of 1 Timothy and the other Pastoral Epistles present a new paradigm for the church—the body of Christ—and that paradigm involves the authority structure for the church, not for the nation of Israel or any other Old Testament entity. 

Similar arguments are made using Priscilla and Phoebe in the New Testament. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila are presented as faithful ministers for Christ. Priscilla's name is mentioned first, perhaps indicating that she was more “prominent” in ministry than her husband. However, Priscilla is nowhere described as participating in a ministry activity that is in contradiction to 1 Timothy 2:11-14. Priscilla and Aquila brought Apollos into their home and they both discipled him, explaining the Word of God to him more accurately (Acts 18:26).

In Romans 16:1, even if Phoebe is considered a “deaconess” instead of a “servant,” that does not indicate that Phoebe was a teacher in the church. “Able to teach” is given as a qualification for elders, but not deacons (1 Timothy 3:1-13Titus 1:6-9). Elders/bishops/deacons are described as the “husband of one wife,” “a man whose children believe,” and “men worthy of respect.” Clearly the indication is that these qualifications refer to men. In addition, in 1 Timothy 3:1-13 and Titus 1:6-9, masculine pronouns are used exclusively to refer to elders/bishops/deacons.

The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11-14 makes the “reason” perfectly clear. Verse 13 begins with “for” and gives the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses 11-12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because “Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived.” God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. This order of creation has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22-33) and the church. The fact that Eve was deceived is also given as a reason for women not serving as pastors or having spiritual authority over men. This leads some to believe that women should not teach because they are more easily deceived. That concept is debatable, but if women are more easily deceived, why should they be allowed to teach children (who are easily deceived) and other women (who are supposedly more easily deceived)? That is not what the text says. Women are not to teach men or have spiritual authority over men because Eve was deceived. As a result, God has given men the primary teaching authority in the church.

Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism, and helps. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women. Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20Acts 1:81 Peter 3:15).

God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are necessarily better teachers, or because women are inferior or less intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual leadership—in their lives and through their words. Women are to take a less authoritative role. Women are encouraged to teach other women (Titus 2:3-5). The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching or having spiritual authority over men. This logically would preclude women from serving as pastors to men. This does not make women less important, by any means, but rather gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with God’s plan and His gifting of them.

 

 

COMMENTARY:

 

Debbie 4 weeks ago

  • I agree with the Scriptures saying that the position of bishop or pastor-teacher is meant for male leadership. Because I was saved in a conservative Christian background and perhaps because I am older, I have always been taught that men were the protectors of women. To be fair though, I did a thorough examination of the Scriptures in the original codex. I was struggling a bit with the Greek, but when I read an Aramaic Hebrew text, it became very clear that the Holy Spirit was talking about gender and roles within the marriage and the Body of Christ. Where the Greek reads “if anyone sets his heart on being an overseer….” The Aramaic Hebrew it reads, “desires (‘iysh): a man saying trustworthy he desires….” Hebrew has more than one word for man whereas Greek has one word for man and another for mankind (male and female) I just cannot justify a woman in this role. I really approached this with an open mind, but God’s Word is God’s Word. I also believe that we should also accept all of the qualification; both the gender and non-gender qualifications as correct and to be followed. I did struggle with the fact that the Scriptures say that the man must have children that are (hupotasso): to arrange under; a military term meaning to arrange soldiers in a military arrangement. Opposition to this idea is that Paul, Timothy and even Jesus are disqualified from being pastor-teachers. I cannot really see where Jesus or Paul were ever pastors of a local church body. Although Timothy started as an apostle, I believe he became a pastor-teacher, but we never know if he had a family. If we look at the context of the verses in 1TIM 3:1-10, we must realize in the ancient church that they probably did not have boards and pastor search committees to go out and find replacements for each local body. They would have chosen a young man who seemed to be gifted with the gift and the local church body would have approached him about being the shepherd of that flock. By watching him for years and seeing his interaction with his wife and children, they could gain a perspective as to how he would treat his sheep. I personally would not choose a pastor who was female or single either. 

    Also those who claim there is no longer roles in creation must go to the Scripture and prove that. “Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function” (ROM 12:4) the word “function” in the KJV is (praxis): a doing, a mode of acting, a deal, a transaction (STRONG’S G4234) obviously there are different “roles” for each believer. Again, I think some of the confusion between the opposing views comes because one group are dispensationalist and the other is not. Those who are opposed to rules feel that when Christ came, by offering salvation to all; “There is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.” (COL 3:11) He thereby eliminated all classification and role in everything else as well. Christ’s teachings were revolutionary in a world where men ruled in everything. I think perhaps because of this, as the church grew, Paul had to write teaching in order to restore order and clarify things for the many Jew and Gentiles were entering the body of Christ. He did not eliminate these classifications of human beings though. "Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God--" (1COR 10:32)

    When we look at the role of women as pastor-teachers in a church body that is not going to affect somebody’s eternal life in heaven versus an eternal life in the Lake of Fire. So, when I say that women in the role of pastor-teachers is a non-essential doctrine, I don’t mean that it is OK to disregard God’s Word, but that whether one goes to such a church or not isn’t going to affect their eternal destiny. Therefore, “It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.” (GAL 5:1) Let’s not impose rules and laws upon others when it will not affect their eternal destiny. If we do, then they begin to believe that unless they do these things, it will affect their eternal salvation. Liberty is the freedom to choose and on this particular doctrine I believe we should have liberty. There are other doctrines which set people at variance. Different churches and denominations look at the use of the Spiritual gifts differently or the order of the end times differently. That will in no way affect a person’s eternal salvation. However, if they say there is no virgin birth, they have violated one of the core tenets of God’s plan of salvation and must be called false teachers. Does that make sense? In truth, I was watching a lady who was the pastor-teacher of a church in Los Angeles on TV for quite awhile and her expositing of the Scriptures in the original Greek and Hebrew was fantastic! She had quite a knowledge and gift that most male pastors I have encountered do not have. Would I have been a member of that flock? I don’t think I could do that because the shepherding part of her ministry would make me uncomfortable. I would treat her with respect as any other brother or sister. “Let all that you do be done in love.” (1COR 16:14) I could not call them false teachers if they are correct on the core doctrines. If the idea is uncomfortable for you, then I would not put myself in that position. We have the liberty to do that. I hope that this helps you understand that in core doctrines we must have unity, in non-essential doctrines we have liberty, but in all things, we must have love. 
    MARANATHA 

Ceseeley 3 weeks ago

  • One of the biggest problems with Biblical interpretation is that people don't want to obey through faith the obvious interpretations that are there in the Bible!!!

    It would have been expedient for God to say that if you believe in my Son Jesus Christ you are saved and Jesus would not have had to go to the cross!

    It may be expedient to organize a church by non Biblical standards, but does it Glorify God the Way that God should be Glorified???

Danielle 4 weeks ago

  • I think God has truly called many women into full time ministry, and to serve as teachers of some kind, but not over entire churches, or - generally, at least - over groups of men. God's role for men and women is different, and that's not bad. Our feministic society teaches us that those roles are not helpful, but hurtful - and this is untrue. God's plans are always best, even though many will always argue many reasons they aren't - if they believe in Him at all, and even consider His views. Women have many God-given messages to share, but I just don't think the Bible supports their doing so in the context of a church's pastor. Just where you "draw the line" for women serving in the ministry can be a harder issue to discuss, though...should women be youth pastors? Mercy ministry pastors? Elders? That's where things get a bit trickier to discern, I think.

  • One thing to consider in all of this is the possibility that some places in the world men may not be able to be pastors for various reasons. If God has called a woman to be a leader in the church, there is no reason why she cannot serve. Proper understanding of the scripture should also be taken into consideration. Whoever is a leader in a church should have the best Biblical education and understanding possible.

  • Thank you for sharing this. I have dealt with the same arguments whenever I teach on 1 Timothy 2:11-14.